RELEASE - Odysseus 1.0b14 [do not post to update sites]

[davebarnes]

Being new, sorry, I cannot find the link to download the latest build of Odysseus. Please advise. Thanks.

Matt is being tricky.
He always edits the first post in this and similar threads when a new release is imminent.
"Download links removed due to pending releasing of Beta 15"
You would not know that unless you had been participating in this forum for awhile.
It took me some time to catch on.
Welcome.
We are having fun with the Greek warrior.

[martyb]

I continue to have a problem with mailboxes being highlighted as having new mail that in fact do not. Sometimes when I attempt to open one of these mailboxes Odx. will crash, and when I reopen Odx. the mailbox either directly above or directly below will be highlighted. This will happen even if there actually was new email in the original mailbox.

I will hope that this bug, along with the inability of Odx. to delete read emails from the server, will be fixed in beta 15.

Marty

[Matt Milano]

I continue to have a problem with mailboxes being highlighted as having new mail that in fact do not. Sometimes when I attempt to open one of these mailboxes Odx. will crash, and when I reopen Odx. the mailbox either directly above or directly below will be highlighted. This will happen even if there actually was new email in the original mailbox.

I will hope that this bug, along with the inability of Odx. to delete read emails from the server, will be fixed in beta 15.

Marty

We've tracked down the Phantom Unread Emails to an issue with Classic Interface. Its one of the bugs addressed in B15.

[paul-ny]

I continue to have a problem with mailboxes being highlighted as having new mail that in fact do not. Sometimes when I attempt to open one of these mailboxes Odx. will crash, and when I reopen Odx. the mailbox either directly above or directly below will be highlighted. This will happen even if there actually was new email in the original mailbox.

I will hope that this bug, along with the inability of Odx. to delete read emails from the server, will be fixed in beta 15.

Marty

We've tracked down the Phantom Unread Emails to an issue with Classic Interface. Its one of the bugs addressed in B15.

That's good, though I have this same phenomenon in Unified. It happens only in a few mailboxes that get mail transferred into them by a filter, and it's intermittent, except in the complicated case where the mailbox contains received copies of outgoing mail. It doesn't lead to crashing, although closing and reopening the Unified mail window several times in a row will always crash Odysseus in Beta 14. I'm looking forward to 15...

[ltking@hawaii.rr.com]

Aloha Matt and Crew:

Speaking of beta 15 . . . . . . . . .?
Lonnie

[bnp]

Being new, sorry, I cannot find the link to download the latest build of Odysseus. Please advise. Thanks.

M
Welcome.
We are having fun with the Greek warrior.

Good to see the energy here,the "fun" perhaps for some, the many commments and Matt's quick replies.
BUT
Does anyone have an idea when a final "commercial" version of "The Greek Warrior" will be available. Y'all know that comments are floating that Odx is vaporware. Thank Goodness Eudora 6.xstill works for me on my new Mac but I know someday it will not. I had high hopes that Odysseus would truly be the replacement. But this Beta keeps dieseling on and on. The issues I read about on this forum tells me I can not turn to Odysseus as reliable software. Sigh! is there light at the end of this forest?

[Matt Milano]

Being new, sorry, I cannot find the link to download the latest build of Odysseus. Please advise. Thanks.

M
Welcome.
We are having fun with the Greek warrior.

Good to see the energy here,the "fun" perhaps for some, the many commments and Matt's quick replies.
BUT
Does anyone have an idea when a final "commercial" version of "The Greek Warrior" will be available. Y'all know that comments are floating that Odx is vaporware. Thank Goodness Eudora 6.xstill works for me on my new Mac but I know someday it will not. I had high hopes that Odysseus would truly be the replacement. But this Beta keeps dieseling on and on. The issues I read about on this forum tells me I can not turn to Odysseus as reliable software. Sigh! is there light at the end of this forest?

Very soon. The very fact that we keep cranking out betas every couple/few weeks indicates its not vaporware. Once we see how Beta 15 goes, we'll nail down a final release date. We have one in mind, but we want to see how B15 does before committing.

[Laurie Spiegel]

"Download links removed due to pending releasing of Beta 15"[/b]

There is no current beta to download on this site?

I've just wasted a hour trying to find the current beta to download (and I've been a patient PAID user for going on a year).

That's an outrage! The previous beta should remain on the site available for download UNTIL the new beta replaces it. Many developers even keep their pre-current betas available until it is clear that no major new problem has turned up in the new one so that users can go back to a previous rev if need be.

There should be at least one downloadable version on the site at all times.

If not, certainly the least you could do would be to edit your site so it does not tell us that we can download the current beta if we register for and login to the forum. It is an insult to waste our time, we who paid for something that still does not exist and have been hanging in with you, not complaining. The least you can do is keep a beta available or else clearly say on the site that there is no version of the software available at all and to give a clear date when this lack will be remedied.

Please post when we can expect to find the new one and the link to the page we should keep checking for its availability.

I do look forward to this program getting done eventually and you have my continued patience and support, but right now I am irked because my old beta is crashing and I need a new one and there simply is none.

- Laurie

[Matt Milano]

"Download links removed due to pending releasing of Beta 15"[/b]

There is no current beta to download on this site?

I've just wasted a hour trying to find the current beta to download (and I've been a patient PAID user for going on a year).

That's an outrage! The previous beta should remain on the site available for download UNTIL the new beta replaces it. Many developers even keep their pre-current betas available until it is clear that no major new problem has turned up in the new one so that users can go back to a previous rev if need be.

There should be at least one downloadable version on the site at all times.

If not, certainly the least you could do would be to edit your site so it does not tell us that we can download the current beta if we register for and login to the forum. It is an insult to waste our time, we who paid for something that still does not exist and have been hanging in with you, not complaining. The least you can do is keep a beta available or else clearly say on the site that there is no version of the software available at all and to give a clear date when this lack will be remedied.

Please post when we can expect to find the new one and the link to the page we should keep checking for its availability.

I do look forward to this program getting done eventually and you have my continued patience and support, but right now I am irked because my old beta is crashing and I need a new one and there simply is none.

- Laurie

Laurie,

Our apologies for the inconvenience. I'll PM the links to the existing Beta 14 to you. We removed the links to it due to the IMAP module being completely revamped in Beta 15.

As for Beta 15, we've preparing the installers and release notes, and will have it uploaded Saturday.

[Clothears]

"Download links removed due to pending releasing of Beta 15"

There is no current beta to download on this site?

I've just wasted a hour trying to find the current beta to download (and I've been a patient PAID user for going on a year).

That's an outrage! The previous beta should remain on the site available for download UNTIL the new beta replaces it. Many developers even keep their pre-current betas available until it is clear that no major new problem has turned up in the new one so that users can go back to a previous rev if need be.

There should be at least one downloadable version on the site at all times.

If not, certainly the least you could do would be to edit your site so it does not tell us that we can download the current beta if we register for and login to the forum. It is an insult to waste our time, we who paid for something that still does not exist and have been hanging in with you, not complaining. The least you can do is keep a beta available or else clearly say on the site that there is no version of the software available at all and to give a clear date when this lack will be remedied.

I think your ire is unjustified. In my opinion (and Matt may not thank me for saying this), Odysseus, at least up to b14, is not ready to replace a working e-mail setup that you may have. There are too many thinks that don't quite work right yet. In b14, that included incomplete importing from Eudora of the body of some mails, and incomplete downloading of some mails.

When there's a new beta, I use it in parallel with Eudora until I've found and reported the problems in Mantis, where they're supposed to be reported. After that there's nothing to be gained in using that beta anymore (I haven't run b14 for about two weeks). Different people will observe different issues, depending on how they use the program.

What this means is that at the moment, two or three weeks or so after a beta is released there is really no longer any point in people downloading it, because enough issues will have been found to keep the developers busy for a while - until the next beta. Obviously, as things improve, this period will get longer and longer, and the bugs remaining will get more and more obscure. Then, you test for longer and you want more people testing.

Meanwhile I'd say stop using any old beta and wait for b15.